When it's time to begin your indie hacking career, two things are really important. Oversimplification of the year, but bear with me. ๐ You have to:
And launching something quick and easy can take care of both things. It diversifies your revenue streams and allows you to knock out that easy one so that you can get into the habit of shipping.
I talked to someone with a lot of experience shipping products โ in fact, he's currently launching 25 products in 25 weeks. ๐
Yep, that's right. Ayush Chaturvedi (@ayushchat) is launching 25 products in 25 weeks. This guy knows how to make a quick product, and he's turning a profit too. How is he doing it? Well, he certainly isn't building a SaaS every week. No, he's creating other types of digital products. Quick ones.
And yeah, I get itโฆ SaaS is the end-all-be-all, right? We all prefer the idea of building a beautiful piece of software, so here's an unpopular opinion:
Not every product needs to be a SaaS. There are other options, and they exist for a reason.
Let's talk about the products Ayush was able to create in a week. And I'll outline some other options later.
In the last few months, Ayush has built the following products within 7 days:
Ayush: Most of these are info/curation-based products because I have to keep the scope very narrow and actually ship the product in a week. A SaaS would take at least a month, even if I built it with NoCode.
So if you're counting, that's a mastermind group, a course, a system, a swipefile, a toolkit, a compilation of tips, and a toolkit. He's also got other courses, guides, ebooks, and a premium newsletter. And before he embarked on the 25x25, he also had a productized service and did some consulting work to keep the lights on.
To date, he's made about $2K on Indie Masterminds and a total of $2K on everything else. Not F-U money by any means, but respectable considering that each of these was built in a week, with little promotion after that week. In case you're wondering how he pays the bills, he saved up two years of runway before quitting his job.
More on how Ayush does it later. For now, here are some other options.
I did a little digging and found more options to add to the list. Of course, there are other options out there โ and I'd love to hear your additions in the comments!
Ayush always pre-launches to his Twitter following (~4500) with nothing more than a landing page. This is how he validates and (hopefully) gets presales.
Ayush: When I launch, I give away the first seats for free by asking people to reply to my Tweet with an emoji to get the link to the product. Then I DM them the link. This brings in hundreds of replies which causes the algorithm to push the launch tweet to more and more people.
And don't get scared away by that ~4500 followers.
Ayush: I used to think that I needed a huge Twitter audience or a large email list before I could start selling my products. But waiting too long before promoting your products can train your audience to expect free stuff, and then they'll never actually buy from you in the end. So be open from the start about why you're building a Twitter/email audience. And if your goal is to eventually monetize it in some way then you should start testing products from the beginning.
Want to turn a profit in a week? Here's how Ayush does it:
Ayush: I launch between Tuesday and Thursday because that's when Twitter has the most traffic. So my week starts on launch day. I plan the product, make a table of contents, decide on the bonuses that people will get, then set the product up on Gumroad with the pricing details and the copy. I schedule the launch tweet to go out later in the day. In it, I ask people to reply with an emoji to get it for free, as I mentioned earlier. And I set up my Twitter scheduler so when anyone replies with that emoji they will get a DM from me with a link to the product.
As the product gets initial sales I increase the price of the product. This helps me to decide on pricing, which I decide on after 2-3 updates.
The next day, I start working on the product. Assuming I have some validation, I start creating it. And by the weekend, I have a fair idea of what the product will look like in its final form.
I use Monday and Tuesday to do the final edits, and add more sections/bonuses that I may have missed.
I also promote the product in my newsletter, and talk about it on Twitter actively through the week โ I try to build it in public as much as I can. This gives me more info on what's resonating and how can I improve the product.
Finally, by Tuesday or Wednesday, I send a launch email to everyone who bought the product, thank them for their faith in me, and release the product officially on Gumroad. I also announce that is live via Twitter.
But there are, of course, a million ways to grow a product. Check out Growth Bites for some ideas, but generally speaking, the best thing you can do is go where your target customers are hanging out, and contribute meaningfully.
Trouble coming up with ideas? I wrote about some ways to come up with ideas a while back. And of course, the venerable @csallen did too, with the most popular post in IH history. But here's what Ayush had to say:
Ayush: My ideas have mostly emerged from the conversations I've had with people I've met on Twitter and Indie Hackers. I've been having hundreds of conversations with people around the world thanks to this amazing community.
After every conversation I get a sense of what kind of product can help them, and I add it to my list in my Notion.
I think folks should have a solid plan and a list of ideas they want to test out. But be serious about every launch. Your customers aren't there to validate ideas for you. They want to get their problems solved. Of course, if nobody pays, or just a couple of people pay then you can always apologize to them and refund the money. But don't make a product launch sound like an experiment.
There will be duds, of course. No way around that. So don't be too hard on yourself.
Ayush: Your idea gets brutally murdered by the market. That's hard to swallow, but important for all entrepreneurs to do.
Long story short, ship something. Do it quickly. Then keep shipping. Having more "buy" buttons on the internet is a great way to diversify and grow your brand.
https://twitter.com/ayushtweetshere/status/1557222490316759040
Has anything in this article actually been verified? If you google some of these products/services there are people complaining that these products/services are low value...
Twenty five poducts in 25 weeks! I bet he's sleeping fast these days.
It's impressive that you can start generating revenue even with 3k followers but how do you start when you have no reputation or high follower count (less than 100 followers)?
That's something in my mind... I
"Put more buy buttons on the internet."
I love that.
Thank you for sharing!
This is truly an impressive, admirable and inspiring story.
Excellent!!! Sometimes moving fast will degrade the quality. How do you find the balance?
Just wow!
What a great post that probably inspired so many people like me.
Thanks @indiejames & @ayuschat for the content and what you've done so far.
Cheers.. excited to see what you build ๐ฅ
Productized services are such a good option. I've been blown away what Brett is doing with DesignJoy. I've seen lots of indie hackers find success with newsletters, ebooks, and swipe files too.
Seems to me that if you're trying to make a lot of money, though, SaaS is a better option (with the possible exception of productized services). But to build your portfolio, these can work nicely.
@ayushchat do you ever plan to build a SaaS or do you think you can grow these smaller products enough to support you?
Hey Lucy, thanks for your question.
There will eventually be a SaaS, but I don't want to commit to it unless I have a SaaS idea that I deeply care about... Plus till I see some validation for the idea through my content products or services... I'm in no hurry.. right now it's time to explore... There will be a time to exploit as well ๐
I recently came across a book called Grit and it's about passion and perseverance. The author explains this with an example when we're kids and the toy is no longer interesting. Interesse is Latin for "to differ" and therefore interest is something different. The new toy is interesting because it's different than the previous one. I see myself doing the same with my projects and now I feel like I finally found THE one.
Keep up the good work @ayushchat
Thanks a ton, appreciate it!
Makes sense! "Exploration" is a phase a lot of people seem to skip, so it's cool that you're doing that.
Awesome read! Do you find it that products that are easy to launch sometimes create a "commitment" that can lower your freedom to do projects that matter more? How do you deal with that? Acquisitions?
This is my introduction to indiehackers, i'm so glad. Wow! Amazing article!! Loved it!
I've also just started my productized service, but I struggle with the promotion part. What to do if you don't have any twitter audience or other reach? This part lacks a bit. Otherwise thanks for the great read!
Amazing Post @ayushchat a really insightful deep in your Jounrey
So Do You Plan to Start a SaaS anytime Soon ?
Thanks a ton.. I already have a SaaS.. I co-founded it with a dev friend Elephas.app
Hey, Ayush I really loved your concept of building info products. I saw that you own SaaS as well. I'm a Product and Ux guy If you need help building user personas and improving the customer journey. Feel free to reach out.
Great post that inspired me so much. I am a startup founder but in my mind everyday some new ideas pops up! Maybe, this is the way to make a collection of product in different stages. The key will be importance and time spending. You need to plan your schedule carefully and prioritize!
Yes.. You need to plan a lot, otherwise it's easy to get burnt out and disappointed..
I like these small product categories! I think it's enormously important above all to think of your own services as products, otherwise you'll always have the same struggle in terms of pricing.
I directly added a new column "product categories" to my list of product ideas. The goal is to let the first one fly till the end of the month ๐๐ช
Love it.. all the best Mortiz!
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I like the idea. What's also good about this list is that most products require little to no maintenance. Creating something new might be challenging, but keeping it relevant is tricky too.
There's very little maintenance, which is great, but you're right that new versions may be necessary every now and then to keep it relevant.
But that's a good thing... It gives me a chance to relaunch the product at a higher price and create a buzz around it...
I love the productized service idea. ๐
Yeah, that's a really great option!
BTW if you don't have any ideas for things to build somehow (I highly doubt this), maybe check out my "buy button on the internet" -- unvalidatedideas.com.
I send out a product idea you can go build every week, you don't even have to think about it, and you can flex this validation muscle and get faster.
Haha.. love it Vados ๐
"Put more buy buttons on the internet" hahaha love it!
Cheers Brennen ๐
Put more buy buttons on the internet... I like that. And props to Ayush - 25 products in 25 weeks is crazy!
Thanks Silvio ๐
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Although it's a hard sprint, 25 products in 25 weeks, but I would somehow disagree with this approach. In my opinion, it's better to focus on solving one problem for a specific customer segment, maybe with just one product. This way, we can really understand the customer's needs and give them what they want. Instead of hoping for quick success with lots of different products, we can make a real difference by concentrating on what matters most.
You may disagree, but that's what I believe.
I have done some of the products you have mentioned. I have a blog about AI I started, I have a course in Introduction to AI, Machine Learning and Python I have started. The challenge I have right now is getting that first client. I was told I should use Linkedin groups but one week after I was blocked and cant get backin. I tried ticktoc adverts but they also were not a asolution instead I lost money in these. Now am told I should use Facebook groups. I need advise,concrete advise on strategy that can generate Leads from people who have done it and it worked. Can someone here please help me to get my first client.
I am a great procrastinator, I need to step on that, my biggest problem is that I always start with something and then stop it or cancel it....
Do you have any advices?
I just realised I'm thinking too much.
It is that I have to just ship it, If I fail, I need to move on.
and keep doing it, I need to be consistence.
I think that's a common issue for people :) Good luck!
Thank you for sharing this! Ayush Chaturvedi's achievement of launching 25 products in 25 weeks is truly impressive and inspiring. It highlights the effectiveness of rapid product development and serves as a motivational blueprint for aspiring entrepreneurs.
I'm currently facing an issue. My iOS app has just been released, but I lack the budget to advertise. Do you have any good suggestions?
The best strategy to minimise risk is to figure out what people are actually searching for and build a product around that.
Here is how:
Find a keyword (=google search query) that has > 500 monthly search volume (so you know people are actually searching for it)
Make sure that the keyword doesn't has a keyword difficulty lower then 20 (so it's feasible to rank on the first page of Google)
Make sure there are 100+ related keywords (so you also get traffic from these keywords)
Free tools like Build The Keyword helps you to identify those golden keywords in 1 click.
Thanks for sharing valuable insights
Loved reading this
Ayush is a smart guy. I saw so many people do the same thing as him on Twitter.
Exactly what almost every Indie Hacker needs to learn.
Small victories build momentum which are always better than big victories.
Long, but worth reading it!
Unusual story) thanks!
Super inspiring. Keep it up!
This is very inspiring. Thanks for sharing!
This is amazing !! Thank you for sharing, it really helps.
Thank you for your post. I stumpled upon Bratt and DesignJoy the last days and it was the inspiration I needed to start my own productized service as an SEO and copy writing expert.
The thing were I struggle though is marketing on social media. I donโt have an audience yet. Maybe just have to startโฆ
Productised service is mind-blowing idea. I never thought that I can make such money on design.
Great post, very helpful for my upcoming product release
It is truly very impressive. And so helpful for people like me. I appreciate @IndieJames and @ayushchat
I love the idea of pre-launch! Thanks for the idea!
@ayushchat You mentioned that your ideas originated from conversations you had with people you had met in IH. How did they represent clients if they were supposed to be problem solvers like you?
Hey Hugo, a lot of my products and services are actually meant for builders and problems solvers like myself. Either helping them with marketing, idea validation, revenue generation etc.
thank you for sharing such a story. This really inspires me!
I learned so much from this interview! I launched a digital planner blog at the beginning of the year with plans to launch a shop in the next couple of months. I recently started fearing I was giving away too many free downloads.
It started by wanting to give people an example of my work, but the traffic on freebies kept me making them. I think it's time to focus fully on the shop launch and pull way back on the freebies.
Unfortunatly, for my newsletter incentive, I promised a free mini-planner every month. I quickly realized that that was an extrememly stupid idea but I feel locked in now that I have a handful of subscribers.
Really interesting post to read and think about!
Great post. Curious about โI'd advise doing it earlierโ speaking of โnewsletterโ. Can you please elaborate? I hit ๐ฅ5,000๐ฅ (free) subs last week ! Thanks
Congrats! It really depends on your newsletter and your model... for me, it would have felt better to have a paid newsletter from the start. I think I'd have more paid subs now. And it would have felt better having it baked into the culture of the newsletter from the get-go instead of making a huge change to a substantial group of people.
Thank you! it makes sense... a different approach is to introduce it in order to be able to offer even more value to readers... it requires more work, yes, some improvements, a 2.0 version with better content but otherwise, it may take longer to have some critical mass (i.e. number of subs). I will find out soon I guess. Thanks again.
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Thanks @IndieJames for including me in this great article... It means a lot ๐
My pleasure, thanks for answering all my questions!
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