Spencer Patterson bootstrapped a SaaS product to $140K MRR and 6M daily users in four years. He then exited for $3.5M and now he's in the process of teaming up on five new SaaS projects.
Let's take a peek at his finances. 👇
💰 "From a young age, I saw that money does, in fact, buy happiness. No, money itself doesn't, but the things it can afford you certainly do: The best health care for you and your family, living in a safe neighborhood, being in the best schools, driving a safer car, eating cleaner/healthier food, reclaiming more of your time, etc." —Spencer
He admits that this doesn't apply on a "spiritual level", but says it's definitely true on a "creature-comfort level".
These views stem from where he grew up. He says he hated NYC and dreamed of getting out. He saw living there as a constant struggle of trying to do better and he just wanted to be able to afford a quiet home somewhere else, so he focused all his energy on making money.
💰 "I tried a lot of silly businesses growing up and it took a while for me to figure out that the internet is where the money's at if you don't have any." —Spencer
Now, he can afford that house, and then some.
After bootstrapping his SaaS to $140k MRR, he sold it for $3.5M on Flippa. He says it felt great to make that kind of money. It was surreal.
💰 "The biggest excitement was thinking about all the things I could say “no” to. I mean, I could do that before, but now I could really live life on my own terms." —Spencer
It wasn't all gumdrops and rainbows, though.
💰 "Then I also got a flash of, 'Oh man, what do I want to work on now?' That’s when the stress set in. I am not the type to sit still. I need outlets for my creative juices. Which is why I am now an exit/growth advisor to founders." —Spencer
As for what he did with the money, he says it might be disappointing to some. He didn't go on a spending spree. He simply put most of it aside for taxes.
💰 "When the IRS comes knocking you want to make sure they are paid up." —Spencer
Other than that, he set up his “warchest”, which he plans to use on his next projects. He has anywhere from $10k-$50k set aside for each of the five projects he's starting.
Spencer's currently working on a few SaaS products with founders that he met on X and Linkedin. They're building the products while he's building the businesses.
💰 "I feel that having a business + tech co-founder team is the best way to go for bootstrapped ventures." —Spencer
He's also actively meeting with founders on Flippa and Acquired to purchase products in the low six figures. That way, he can jump right into scaling a business right away.
And he's been networking with other founders who have had successful exits and are keen to invest in new projects.
While he does all this, Spencer is living off of the interest payments from his savings and investments. He says his expenses are low enough that this covers everything he needs personally, plus the investments he makes into his businesses.
That's a lot of interest, and it's all thanks to what he made from the acquisition, plus what he managed to save at his previous job.
Let's take a look at what he's bringing in:
He isn't paying himself anything because the products haven't launched yet. Even if they had, though, this is how he likes to do it. On his previous product, he didn't pay himself a dime until revenue was more than he felt was needed for expansion. And even after that, he only paid himself the amount he'd made at his previous job.
He doesn't really have any business expenses right now, but here are his personal expenses:
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Right now, Spencer needs to be liquid, as he plans to invest his money into new projects. He also likes having cash on hand for other reasons.
💰 "Cash is king right now. There is a lot of volatility in the world and in every market. Until I can see a clear direction on where things are going, I'll stay liquid. It's always good to have money saved up for the right investments." —Spencer
But his cash isn't just sitting around. He has it in high-yield savings accounts and CD ladders. For both of these, he aims for 5%+ interest.
He does have some investments, though. He says money should be treated as a tool, and it should be used to make other "tools".
💰 "Make your money work for itself. The less you trade time for money, and the sooner you put your money to work, the more it will come to you without effort." —Spencer
So he has invested in everything from precious metals to foreign currencies to international bonds to CDs, and on and on. He's a firm believer in diversification.
He suggests reading Rich Dad Poor Dad when you're getting started and says that, while it's a bit outdated, the core principles apply:
💰 "Own things that cashflow and use that cashflow to purchase more things that cashflow. That could mean stocks that appreciate with dividends, royalties on assets, interest payments, rent payments from real estate, etc." —Spencer
Spencer also plans to look into multi-family real estate once the housing market corrects. He says prices are hyper-inflated right now.
When he eventually does that, he'll take on as much debt as possible on those properties. It's the only debt he's willing to take on, other than his current mortgage.
For money that he keeps in the US, Spencer has one rule.
💰 "The primary rule I follow is ensuring all funds held within the U.S. are in institutions with FDIC insurance. This is a critical step for safeguarding assets, providing a layer of security against the loss of deposit funds." —Spencer
And for international finances, he utilizes services like Wise to diversify his currency holdings, the goal being to minimize currency risk and maximize returns from currency fluctuations.
💰 "If you have ample diversification, you can insulate yourself from currency fluctuations and even potentially profit, should your home currency devalue." —Spencer
Spencer sees himself as a minimalist. He doesn't spend much on himself, but he does like to splurge on his friends. If he goes to dinner or events with people, he always pays, no matter who he's with.
💰 "I don’t usually splurge on myself because I actually feel better surprising people I care about with things. I know it sounds cliché, but it’s true. " —Spencer
He did recently get a new truck, though, and he's excited about that.
💰 "I consider myself a minimalist. I don’t like clutter or having a lot of possessions so I don’t really buy much other than consumables or things that will save me time or effort." —Spencer
Despite being a minimalist, he's not a budgeter. He doesn't limit his spending. He just knows what things should cost and if an expense seems high in a given month, he does a review to understand what's going on.
Taxes are a moving target for Spencer. Like many of us, he has to predict his yearly income and pay taxes quarterly. And this can lead to overpaying, which ties up cash that could be invested elsewhere, or underpaying which leads to penalties and a lump sum payment at tax time.
💰 "I make the suggested quarterly payment based on the previous year’s returns, and not a penny more. The goal is to hold as much of my money as I can because overpaying leads to the government holding it interest-free with zero benefit to me." —Spencer
As you might imagine, the taxes on his $3.5M acquisition were substantial — close to 40%. But that's partly due to his company structure.
He says that operating as an LLC instead of an INC meant that he wasn't eligible for QSBS (Qualified Small Business Stock) benefits, which offer notable tax advantages.
💰 "If you are planning on selling instead of holding on to your company for years, I think it's best to use a corporation style that allows for QSBS. QSBS can be a significant planning tool for the right company, such as a tech startup." —Spencer
Spencer has never taken VC funding, but he has a lot of thoughts on the matter. He thinks it creates a ruthless and cutthroat environment where you can be ousted from your own project if you don't meet certain KPIs.
However, the bootstrapping community, he says, is about building each other up. He resonates with that. And it's better for the business too.
💰 "Bootstrappers are using their hard-earned money to build a project that they are truly passionate about. I feel like you work much harder and with a greater sense of purpose when your own money is on the line." —Spencer
And he says VC money is drying up anyway thanks to the high-interest-rate environment.
That's why he's all about "bootstrapped funding" these days.
💰 "Bootstrapped funding means taking your own money from your savings account and using it to fund your own project, and projects that you believe in." —Spencer
Let's wrap up with two pieces of advice.
First, do your homework.
💰 "People who want decent finances actually need to take an interest in it and do research on it. Look into how to save on taxes, look up qualified small business expenses, research investments and savings plans, find questions to ask your accountant, and so on. Do as much research as you possibly can before you invest anything." —Spencer
And second... do your homework.
💰 "If you are going to go all in on investing your time AND money into a project that you plan on starting, make sure you spend a bit of money to pre-test. Measure product stickiness. Use ads to test product market fit. Spend some money at the beginning to make sure you don’t fall into a sunk-cost fallacy." —Spencer
Bootstrapped founders looking to exit but needing a little help in the process can find Spencer on X.
Please note that the above are opinions. This is meant for informational purposes only. It is not intended to be financial advice.
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What a cool story! Selling a startup and then having the drive to go again with other projects 🚀 This is why I love this bootstrapped community
Nice advice and good insights. Investing in Land or real state is passive income.
great insights
That's some great advice right there. Nice tips.
Congrats on the success. Truly praying I can get to that level. Not financial advice, but I would also look into Bonds. I'm really interest in that as a long term investment, especially treasury bonds, plop like $100K in that bad boy for 10 years. Live off the interest, or even $1M and live off the interest with other passive income stream.
I am in bonds and notes but the issue is... they still provide relatively low hedge against inflation despite being 4%~ currently. While they are state income tax free interest, the full 1-2% difference you could make in a CD product currently or even a low risk dividend stock outweighs it. But like I said, I have some just for diversification purposes. Hehe. (Not Financial Advice)
Nice. The Interest payments on your bond goes directly to you or you can't really touch it until the bond expires?
They earn interest until maturity and are paid every 6 months and I'm also paid a par amount, or the principal, when the Treasury bond matures. This interest is exempt from state and local taxes. So you can get those payments to any bank account.
Nice. I really want to plop like a huge chunk of change into treasury bills.
Thank you for your sharing. I have a lot to learn from you.
Thank you! I am still learning a lot from this community as buildinginpublic is new to me. Feels good to step out of my comfort zone.
Congrats on the success, Spencer and thanks for sharing James! Can't wait to see what the next five projects bring. Keep killing it.
Thank you! Working on some pretty cool ones now in more stable / recession proof industries.
It seems like Spencer Patterson has a pragmatic approach to wealth and success, focusing on financial stability, smart investments, and carefully managing his expenses
With a sprinkle of well managed risk.
https://reddit.com/r/fatfire
I don't think I've ever heard of FATFIRE. Only FIRE but even then, I wouldn't be able to retire. I enjoy creating things too much. ha
Love that forum, I can speak with wealthy individuals as a poor person lol
your journey is truly inspiring! Your strategic approach to finance and investment, coupled with your minimalist lifestyle and generosity, offers a unique perspective on success post-exit. It's enlightening to see how you balance personal fulfillment with smart business tactics. Your advice on staying liquid and diversifying investments is particularly valuable in today's volatile market. Thanks for sharing your story and insights – they're a great resource for aspiring entrepreneurs!
Thank you! Right now it's a crazy time for everyone so being nimble and liquid in my opinion is a good move to be able to make a good investment.
nice post, curious to hear the details of the projects he's now working on after the exit.
I am actually partnering up with founders I met on X and Linkedin to either provide them runway or acquire their SaaS projects. I do plan on #buildinginpublic this time around.
Awesome, excited to follow the progress!
Great insights, Spence!
Let's top that with the new projects!
The sky is the limit!
Looking forward to seeing what the next few projects bring!
Fantastic writeup James!
nice
That was an amazing read, thanks @IndieJames for the write-up and thanks Spencer for being so open about the numbers!
I've got lots of admiration for this open-book philosophy. And as a follower of "Mister Money Mustache" I am a big fan of the ratio between personal expenses and investments that Spencer has followed here. That is so important to actually get financial freedom instead of gradually eating into his capital. Congrats!
Thanks! I think it helped being a licensed banker prior to working for myself. Taught me a lot about budgeting, finances, investing and how to maintain a comfortable lifestyle without being over extended.