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๐Ÿ‘€ Facebook, Twitter used "Find then build" approach. And IndieHackers are using "Build and they will come" or "build it and find them"

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  • Twitter enables saving tweets for sending them later and scheduling tweets in the web app (1 min video) by @KrrisPl
  • Use Carbon.now.sh for creating and sharing beautiful images of your source code by @toughyear
  • Use Automatio, a no-code web automation tool, to automate almost any website, build a bot, scrape/extract data and much more. Check this video (27 min) for more details by @kinder

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It's official: Google cares about how fast your site loads by @tscionti

Google recently announced a project Web Vitals that will allow you to view Google's official guidance about perceived load speed, responsiveness, and visual stability on your website. It will officially go into effect in 2021. (Full announcement here)


7 sales lessons from 20 years of sales by @witsuma

  1. Sales can be as complicated as you make it. You can have a hundred ways to prepare. The advice is to just do it.
  2. Sales are about people and solving problems they want to solve. Even needs can be ignored.
  3. Here are things people spend money on; buying time, making money, avoid losing money, desires, peace of mind, approval, assurance.
  4. People buy things that take away their immediate pain predictably. Buying things that prevent pain in the long run is much more sporadic.
  5. People prefer to buy from their friends. So go make a lot of friends. Being friendly is might be one of the most powerful business superpowers.
  6. Being valuable and useful is all you ever need to do to sell things. Help people out. In all the ways expect nothing in your heart. Be genuine and consistent. People will go out of their way to get you money.
  7. People don't care what you measure. The only measurement for them is what they're paying you for.

How I got visitors to engage with my live chat by @offlinemark

  • Make it convenient to chat with by making the chat bot automatically pop up. (Although it's annoying but it's worth it.)
  • Give people a reason to engage with the widget by asking specific questions. This helps frame the user's mind vs needing the user to think of their own question. Timestamps.fm replaced "Welcome! Let me know if you have any questions!" with "Would you like me to give you a quick recap?" Results: 0 chats with 1st prompt and 6 chats with a new prompt in a week. (getting 50 visitors per day)

How to get content ideas and rank long tail keywords using Search Console by @tejas3732

This strategy works for pillar blog posts.
Go to your Search Console. Under Performance, filter with the last 3 months. Now you will get all the queries people are literally "searching" on Google. Export this list and start adding relevant keywords you haven't used inside the blog. Don't stuff it. Embed it naturally inside the blog.


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It is important to target the right audience! by @harshitbhatia

Harshit was actively engaging and getting a lot of responses from content creators, but there was a problem. He wants to interact with entrepreneur people. So he unfollowed most of content creator connections to get few posts about them. And I recommend you to customize your social profiles according to your interest. And it's more important than reading the rest of the newsletter as you spend 5 minutes with me and 3 hours on social media.


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Where to start when learning to create chrome extensions? by @alexjvale

Best place to start learning chrome extensions development is official developer chrome extension documentation. You can also inspect the code of every extension that you have installed on your computer. Stack Overflow will tell you where they are. Then dive deep into the code to see how they do things. (Please check valuable comments)


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If "Build and they will come" doesn't work what about "build it and find them"? by @cloubao

(Good Read) It's 2020. Finding users/customers is more difficult than building something. And the best tactic to get initial customers is building a "community" first for your upcoming product and iterate with that community to make your product better.
Facebook and Twitter used the "find then build" approach. Zuck downloaded all the emails from Harvard so he knows where to find the first users. And Twitter got initial users from Odeo.


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1. "Indie" Doesn't Mean "Bootstrapped" Anymore by my favorite @Csallen

2. Five Lessons Learned from Launching my first SaaS by @Kevcon80

3. SaaS Marketing Pages Checklist by @milgrowth

4. The UX of Images on a Landing Page in 7 Examples by @Mratiebatie

5. What SaaS websites have the best pricing page, any suggestions and recommendations? (check comments)


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on June 1, 2020
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    @FalakSher, as much as I would have loved to be in this awesome list, I must tell you that carbon.now.sh isn't my product. I don't really know who created it, but I can't take the credit. Anyways, I am sure I will make it into your list soon with a product that I made. A vote of thanks to you anyway. Your work is awesome.

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      I don't mention Maker of the product. I mention the person who posts it on the Indiehacker's.

      Good luck for your product. I am a little curious about knowing what are you building silently?

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    Thanks for the feature Falak :)

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      Goodluck for your project. DJ Mark.

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    Thanks for the mention Falak๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿผ

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      My pleasure.

      I have to look 3 times for writing correct spellings of your username. Capitalization also added to the confusion.

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        Good point. Thought about changing it to my own name but canโ€™t find the option.

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    Facebook, Twitter used "Find then build" approach.

    This is misleading. Twitter reportedly conceived & built before finding users and internal "users" tested product not wider consumer appetite (which struggled at start).

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      I will add it if you are sure about your words.

      My main purpose in this post was urging indie makers to build a community first. Then monetize this community.

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        Thanks but no need to change it. I may write a post about it. There are different paths through the forest. Building a community first then monetizing the community is a sensible / defensible / lean (call it what you will) way that people aren't likely to argue against, but it is interesting (to me at least) how many successes did not take that route although are often reported as doing so. It's not so important but like I say if I get the urge I'll write a post. Thanks anyway.

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          How I can pump you to write this awesome post?

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            Pump is not the best term to use where I'm from - will let you know I do.

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    I'm guilty of "build it and find them"... ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿปโ€โ™€๏ธ

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      Good news, you are not alone!

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    Thanks for featuring,

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    Thank you for the mention! Another great round up!

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      I really thank you for your kind words. This motivate me even further.

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    Thanks for the mention!

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      Looking for more great content from you!

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    Thanks a lot for featuring SaaSFrame in your indieletter @FalakSher ๐Ÿ™

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      My pleasure โ˜บ๏ธ
      And I like your site & content. I checked it thrice today.

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        I'm glad you like it! It's live on Product Hunt btw https://www.producthunt.com/posts/saasframe :)

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            Thanks for the support Falak!

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    Thanks for the mention! I added one extra item so the link changed!
    https://www.indiehackers.com/post/5-lessons-learned-from-launching-my-first-saas-ab047ddb0e

    Great work on these as always!

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