Good day, hackers,
Today I’ll tell you how I chose a name for my product Singing Carrots, the brand that helped me to grow organic traffic to my website from 103 unique monthly sessions in March 2020 to 105 000 monthly sessions in Jan 2022.
Around Christmas time of 2019 I was attending a student concert of my vocal school in one of the little family held theatres of Amsterdam. The audience consisted of singing students and I naturally mingled around, chatting with people and diverting the conversations towards my project - a website that helped you to find a song to sing. A lot of people heard about my project before and the question that was popping up again and again was “Yeah, your app, it’s awesome! How was it called again?”
It was called “Song To Sing”, and in my mind was ideally reflecting what it does. I was also hoping that relevant words in the name could boost me in search results. Nobody seemed to be able to memorise that name. There were confusions with word order, plural/singular usage and .com domain was taken so I actually was hosted on songtosing.net. The thought that I have to do something about it was planted in my brain.
Around a month later I was browsing through the web and ran across Folding Burritos, a product development blog by Daniel Zacarias. I’ve read this article on prioritization techniques and went to lunch with my fellow Product Owners from Booking.com where I was working at that time. We’ve got our meals and I started sharing with my peers the content of the article. What struck me was the unusual fact that I memorised the name of some random blog from the internet. Ironically, it seems that Daniel decided to rebrand. He probably has his reasons.
Nevertheless at that moment I was so impressed with the effect that the naming had on me that I decided to deconstruct the principle behind it and to come up with something similar for my product.
“How does it work?” - I asked myself.
That day I started putting name ideas into my notes. The name was supposed to follow the Folding Burritos pattern. On top of that I came up with a few extra requirements:
Over the next few months whenever I got an inspiration moment I would note an idea. My list was full of “whistling potatoes”, “shower karaokes” and “pizza notes”. As you can see, inspired by burritos I was leaning towards food :)
Until one day I ran across some article on the internet that was talking about the etymology of the word “carol” and the fact that in some rare British dialects a word “carrot” can be used to replace it for fun. That was my “eureka” moment.
I quickly purchased the domain, but before migrating the website and updating the branding I wanted to do one last validation. I’ve started telling my friends that I’m renaming the website to Singing Carrots. After talking to roughly 20 people I paused and waited for a week to see if they memorised the name. When the week passed I messaged all these people to check if they still remembered. Every single one did!
singingcarrots.com went live on the 26th April 2020 and has been growing happily ever since!
Thanks to @IndieJames who encouraged me to share about my indie hacker journey. I’ll try to share more small experiences and learnings if I find enough time to write :)
Today was just perfect: my working laptop broke, and while waiting for the replacement I learned how to use Google Docs from my iPad.
Giving names is the most difficult task! I have struggled a lot to come up with a good name for tabwhale.com
I'm developing this site to create song tabs. The focus now is on Kalimba tabs, but in the long term, it should be able to handle any instrument.
When I was searching for a name, I was following the very same requirements:
I even used a few websites to generate names for me, https://namelix.com and https://namify.tech
I was trying to put "tab" on the name, plus something related to music. Or maybe a name with just music stuff. Oh boy, that was hard, I found them very difficult to remember
I was thinking about it for over a week. I liked tabwhale, easy to remember, but why "whale"? It had to have some explanation. I tried to draw a logo based on it and BAM! That's it, the whale looks like a note on a tab♩🐋 . Good enough for me, I bought the domain and finished the logo 😄
| the whale looks like a note on a tab♩🐋
That's an awesome finding!
Tried to play around with your website. Love it. How did you come up with a use case?
Thank you 😁
I purchased a kalimba a while ago and was struggling to find good tabs online. I was hoping for a site like musescore.org, flat.io, or songsterr.com, but with Kalimba-like tabs. I made a little research and found KTabs, a software to write Kalimba tabs. It's very well-known software in the kalimba niche, but it's very outdated, I didn't like it at all.
So, if people pay to use this outdated software, maybe I can create a better solution and monetize it later. Maybe I could make a site where people can create and share their tabs, all in one place, just like the other sites I mentioned. And that's exactly what I'm doing 😅.
I think I can relate pretty much with the Theme Park Bender meme 😂
Did you research the copyright side of things? I’m wandering if you can allow users to make the tabs of licensed songs they create public?
Yes, I researched a little bit, but I don't think it's a problem, since tabwhale is just a small niche site for now.
But this is definitely a problem for the future. I stumbled upon musecore licensing page and they address exactly this issue. Maybe I'll have to do the same, but that's a great problem to have because it means the site is a success and caught the attention of the music industry.
Thanks for sharing this, as the topic concerns me as well. It seems we are working on somewhat intersecting areas. Would you be up for a virtual cup of coffee to chat? (I would pm you, but you don't seem to have a contact attached).
Sure, I would love it! I'll pm you
This is brilliant creative thinking and analysis IMO 💯
Noticing interesting things and asking “How does it work?” or “Why is this working?” is an under appreciated superpower.
Asking questions like these is a superpower!
Thanks for sharing! 🙂 🍻
Absolutely. I love this type of content.
thank you for inspiring me to continue exploring my brand name! We threw up the name, Sidekick as MVP for thesidekick.app.
We needed something to get going and just give a name our users can refer to the product as. We went through so many iterations and just never came back to it. But, now as our audience continues to grow, I'm realizing that it's recognizeable to our existing users but atrocious to SEO.
Already jotted down some notes from your post to get us thinking again :)
I’m happy you enjoyed the read. You actually also reminded me that I dropped the Deep Work book, only read it half-through. Maybe I should return to it :)
The Side Kick is what we all need at times.
Singing Carrots is such a fun name, and the website is such a fun website... A match made in heaven! Thanks for sharing your story!
I wonder if there is a recipe that works best. Most people seem to go with either [adjective + noun] or [some amalgamation of words]. Any thoughts on how a brand name should be structured?
Great question. I don't have an answer, unfortunately. When I think about "big brands" with budgets it seems they try to grab a single word and turn it into a common noun or verb. (When someone needs to google or calls an uber it feels like a win). I also really like to read about brand stories like swoosh/Nike and Sony.
Adjective + noun worked for me, with my limited budget in my narrow niche, but I don't think it's a rule 💁
Hi Lucy! I actually just wrote an IH post laying out my recipe for choosing a name (I own a branding agency but had trouble choosing my own company name).
In short:
hope that helps!
Love it! And I don't think I'll forget the name Singing Carrots any time soon 😀
+1
Hey @sergeyk - very cool story and an interesting product! How did you manage to transfer domain authority to the new domain?
There was not much to transfer. The old domain didn't have a lot of traffic and not many links build up. I've just set up redirects and that was it.
Totally worth reading, Sergey. Thanks a lot for sharing.