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I Spent 6 Months Building for Indie Hackers. My First Real Customer Taught Me I Was Wrong.

I launched my project management tool in May.

It had every feature indie hackers said they wanted: simple pricing, lifetime deals, dark mode, API access, and Notion-like blocks.

I got 23 upvotes on Product Hunt. Made $227 in the first month from other builders. Felt like I was onto something.

Then I talked to my first customer outside the indie sphere. She was a small marketing agency owner.

Within 5 minutes, she asked: "Where's the client portal? How do I white-label this? Can my clients comment without creating accounts?"

I had built none of those things.

I'd spent six months in indie hacker communities asking what features people wanted. Everyone said "Keep it simple! Don't bloat it!" So I built a tool that indie hackers loved to compliment but never actually paid for long-term.

The agency owner? She needed something that solved her actual pain: client communication chaos.

Not another "beautiful, minimal" tool.

I stopped posting feature polls on Twitter. Started booking 15-minute calls with people who fit my target customer profile but had never heard of indie hacking.

Real retention jumped from 12% to 41% in two months. MRR went from $347 to $2,100. Not huge numbers, but actual customers with real problems, not other founders window shopping.

The uncomfortable truth I learned: The indie hacker community is amazing for support and learning.

But it's a terrible place to validate most products. We are not representative of normal users. We want different things. We tolerate different friction.

My agency customer doesn't care about my tech stack. She doesn't want to "build in public" with me.

She just wants her clients to stop emailing her 47 times a day with feedback scattered across Gmail, Slack, and text messages.

When was the last time you talked to a potential customer who isn't an indie hacker or founder?

I'd love to hear your experiences. Have you caught yourself doing this? Or did you avoid this trap from the start? What helped you stay focused on real customer problems?

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Building in Public
on November 3, 2025
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    This is such an important lesson you've captured here. The trap of building for builders is so easy to fall into because the feedback feels good and comes quickly. Your story about the agency owner needing client portals instead of dark mode really crystallizes how different real user needs can be from founder preferences.

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      You’re absolutely right: it’s all too easy to keep building things that feel exciting as a founder (hi dark mode 😊) but don’t align with actual user needs.

      Your agency-owner story really hits home. It reminds me of how the Teamcamp “Client Portal”( https://www.teamcamp.app/product/client-portal) feature was born, instead of just adding another cosmetic UI tweak, we focused on giving clients real value: secure access, live project updates, file sharing, invoice tracking and activity visibility.

      When you flip the lens from “what I want to build” to “what the client actually needs to get done”, you often end up in very different territory and that’s where meaningful traction comes from.

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    i feel your pain, but in my opinion you will need to get feedback from the niche you are targeting, i did not try posting here but i am in the process to do so, but i think i will selected what i need.

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      Totally agree! getting feedback from your exact niche changes everything. Broad feedback can be helpful early on, but the real clarity comes when you test with the users who actually face the problem you’re solving. Curious to hear how your next round of feedback goes once you post!

  3. 1

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  4. 1

    Wow, this really resonates. I’ve definitely fallen into the trap of building for the feedback of other founders instead of real users. It’s easy to get caught up in what your peers think is ‘cool’ or ‘minimal,’ but until you talk to someone who actually pays for a solution, you’re just validating features for the wrong audience.
    I love how you pivoted to speaking directly with agency owners — that’s exactly where real product-market fit comes from. It’s a good reminder that the people who understand the pain aren’t always the ones in your community.
    I’d love to hear more about how you structured those 15-minute calls — what questions worked best to uncover their actual pain points?

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    Man, this hit hard. I went through almost the same thing. I built a sleek, minimal tool that other makers loved to praise but not to pay for. It felt good at first, getting that validation from peers, but it was all surface-level.
    When I finally started talking to actual business owners people who didn’t care about dark mode or APIs everything changed. They wanted results, not aesthetics. They cared about saving time, reducing chaos, and looking good to their clients. That’s it.
    It’s wild how different the “real world” market is from the indie hacker bubble. The feedback loops are slower, but the insights are 100x more valuable.
    Huge respect for sharing this. It’s a tough lesson, but one that separates builders from entrepreneurs.

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    These same mistakes committed more often due to lack of ground level awareness. Once you get the ground level information it is easy to build the product and address the real pain in the community.

  7. 1

    This reminds me of that episode of Silicon Valley

  8. 1

    Love this reflection Pratham.... wild how talking to real users always humbles your assumptions...

  9. 1

    I totally understand this. I've been told this. But my challenge comes from actually trying to reach these ones. How do I connect and talk with these people? Some people I've tried to reach out to, don't reply at all. Any suggestions?

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      Totally get that outreach is tough at first. What helped me was focusing less on “selling” and more on learning. I started by offering short 10–15 min chats just to understand their workflow, not pitch. Once I framed it as “I’m trying to learn from how you run projects,” replies went way up.

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    Such a relatable shift, from building what gets applause to building what gets adopted. It reminds me of how Startup Wars approached product-market fit differently by letting students experience real startup decisions through simulation rather than building tools for founders themselves.

    Do you think indie hacker-style validation still has a role in the early stages, or is it better to avoid that bubble from the start?

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      Thats great example and perfectly said. I think indie hacker validation still helps early on for quick feedback and motivation, but it’s dangerous if you treat it as true market validation. It’s great for building momentum, not for building direction.

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    This hit hard — and it’s such an important reminder. 💯

    It’s so easy to get lost building for other builders instead of real users.
    I’m going through something similar right now while working on CraftName (check it in my profile) — an AI tool that helps founders come up with startup names and instantly check domain availability.

    When I started, I was asking feedback mostly from other indie hackers.
    Everyone loved the concept, but the real insights only came once I talked to actual founders trying to launch fast and struggling with naming under pressure.

    Your story nails it — validation inside the bubble ≠ validation in the market.
    Appreciate you sharing this so honestly. 👏

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      Really appreciate that and totally relate to what you said about “validation inside the bubble.” Talking to founders under real launch pressure gives a completely different kind of feedback. CraftName sounds super useful for that moment when people just want to ship. We Also Follow this similar type of approach in Bearconnect - AI powered LinkedIn Automation tool

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    This is such a valuable lesson you've shared here. It's easy to get caught in the echo chamber of building for other builders. Your pivot to talking directly with real users outside the indie bubble paid off clearly—going from 12% to 41% retention is huge! Thanks for the honest reflection.

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      Appreciate that! It really was a mindset shift once I started talking to real users, everything from roadmap to retention started making more sense.

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    This hit home. It’s easy to build for people like us and forget that real customers think totally differently. Curious ,did you change your marketing strategy after that realization, or mostly the product direction?

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      Great question a bit of both. I shifted product direction first to actually solve the agency pain points, then adjusted the marketing to speak their language instead of “builder talk.”

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        Exactly once I started aligning messaging with how actual users describe their pain points, engagement improved across every channel. It’s wild how just changing a few phrases from “features” to “problems solved” transforms response rates.
        That shift also made my Reddit outreach far more effective real users respond when they feel understood, not marketed to. I’ve been helping a few SaaS founders apply the same principle in their organic growth campaigns, and it’s been a game-changer for conversions.
        Would love to hear how you’re approaching messaging for your next stage , more product-led or community-led?

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    This is painfully relatable. I launched a QA audit service for lean teams — modular reports, backend logic checks, founder-friendly pricing. Got compliments, a few upvotes, even some early traction.

    But my first real customer wasn’t a fellow builder. She was running a SaaS with a messy admin panel and said:

    “Can you help me stop losing users because of silent backend bugs?”

    She didn’t care about my audit layout or tech stack. She wanted trust, reliability, and fewer support tickets.

    That’s when I realized: Indie Hackers are amazing for support and feedback — but not always for validation. We love clean tools, clever features, and building in public. But most customers just want their pain solved.

    Now I spend less time polling Twitter and more time talking to founders who aren’t in the indie bubble. Retention jumped. Real MRR followed. And I stopped chasing applause.

    Thanks for sharing this — it’s a powerful reminder to build for pain, not praise.

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      That’s such a powerful story! I felt every word. It’s wild how different the feedback becomes once you talk to someone who’s living the pain, not just admiring the product. Love your line “build for pain, not praise.” That sums it up perfectly.

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    Hits hard because it's true, other indie hackers saying “nice build!” doesn’t mean real customers actually need it.
    And yeah, most people outside this bubble don’t care about dark mode or lifetime deals. They just want their problem to go away.
    Your story is a good reminder to stop guessing in our own heads and start talking to people who might actually pay.Thanks for keeping it real and sharing this.

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      Totally agree ! it’s all about learning from real users. I had a similar moment while working on Bearconnect, a LinkedIn outreach tool. Talking to actual agency founders showed me how different their daily pain points were from what other builders assume.

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        Exactly, it’s wild how different the real world is once you step outside the indie bubble.
        I’m still pretty early with DocBeacon, but you’re right, every real conversation shifts what I thought users needed.
        Curious to hear how you’re reaching those agency founders in the first place, cold outreach? communities? existing network?

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