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Navigating the Challenges of Marketing a Privacy-Focused CMS - My Journey with Hyvor Blogs: Any ideas and thoughts?

Hey IndieHackers community,

I'm Ishini Senanayake, the gal wearing multiple hats at HYVOR – UI/UX designer and the one trying to crack the code on our digital marketing strategy. Today, I want to take you behind the scenes of my journey, particularly the hurdles I've been facing in getting the word out about Hyvor Blogs, a blogging platform.

Background

So, here's the deal. At HYVOR, we're all about user privacy. That's non-negotiable. Even when it comes to our marketing strategy, we steer clear of using Google Analytics to track user behavior. Sounds noble, right? Well, it's been both a blessing and a curse.

The Analytics Dilemma

The first product that we released was Hyvor Talk (a commenting platform). And all we did was content marketing for Hyvor Talk: no analytics, no ads, nothing else. We were able to make it and I am proud to say that we are doing good with Hyvor Talk.

Marketing Hyvor Blogs has been like trying to hit a moving target blindfolded.
I decided to go with content marketing as we did for Hyvor Talk makreting. But it seemed a shot in the dark for me. However as a digital marketer I clearly know that Hyvor Blogs' market is way to broad than Hyvor Talk's. But there must be something that works right?

So I decided to try Google Ads and analytics but we did not break our policy of users privacy: not tracking users and collecting their data. Therefore we decided to go with Splitbee, a less intrusive analytics tool: it is way too behind Google Analytics. But here's the catch – some users disable analytics, and we don't use tracking codes. So, while Splitbee gives us some insights, it's not the full picture.

And, we put up Hyvor Blogs in Appsumo for a one-time deal. From that, we got so many customers from Appsumo but all of them are one-time (They are only paying us one time per lifetime). They really loved the product. And still they are using Hyvor Blogs. We stopped the Appsumo deal within a very short time.

Google Ads Conundrum

Now, let's talk about Google Ads. As I told you earlier we gave it a shot to market HYVOR Blogs, but our commitment to privacy meant we didn't use tracking codes or parameters. Yeah, probably not the smartest move. It's a constant balancing act between marketing effectively and not compromising user privacy. But you know what, it did not go as I expected.

Content Marketing Strategies

(Now this is while I was using Google Ads) -> To tackle the keyword competition, I shifted gears to content marketing. Went for easy-to-rank keywords (Low KD), but guess what? Lower search volumes became the new challenge. I also reached out to other business blogs for genuine collaborations, steering clear of any paid partnerships. I'm not a fan of paying someone to say they love us. I really am not a fan of paying somebody's site to say "Product X is good" no matter it is good or not good for users out there.

So I decided to put a full-stop to Google Ads.

The Turning Point

After ditching Google Ads for a while and going all-in on content marketing, we hit a Monthly Recurring Revenue (MRR) of 200 euros. High-fives all around, right? Well, not so fast. We're still struggling to get the right people to notice HYVOR Blogs. But deep down I know Hyvor Blogs is a good blogging platform out there. The thing is it is not being seen by the right people. Only a very few has noticed our product and enjoy our services happily.

Seeking Insights from the Community

Recently, I spilled my guts on IndieHackers, celebrating our 200-euro MRR milestone but also sharing our struggles. Surprisingly, the celebration was short-lived as we haven't snagged any paid users since then. I'm scratching my head, wondering why what worked for Hyvor Talk isn't cutting it for Hyvor Blogs.

The Return to Google Ads

So, after a deep dive into contemplation, I decided to give Google Ads another shot while I am doing content marketing. Two ads – one pointing folks to the HYVOR Blogs homepage, and the other singing the praises of our "WordPress Alternatives" article. Spoiler alert: nada. Zilch. Now, I'm debating whether it's worth burning more money.

Moving Forward

Today, I'm hitting the pause button on Google Ads again. As I navigate these murky waters, I'm reaching out to you, the IndieHackers community, for your insights, thoughts, and any experiences you might have had in a similar boat.

Thanks for being part of this rollercoaster journey with HYVOR Blogs.

Cheers,

on January 14, 2024
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    There is a lot I would change about how the marketing is done.

    I'm not sure where you are sending traffic but the landing page at https://blogs.hyvor.com/ could use a lot of love in terms of Conversion Rate Optimization

    It doesn't showcase the 'transformation' that I would have by using this service, the time I would get back or the ease I would have. It leans too heavily into these are the features we have. Plus the spacing and text sizes just aren't attractive enough. No wonder your Google Ads are struggling.

    I would recommend looking at Conversionwise's model called ATIDCOA and seeing how that can be incorporated - https://twitter.com/oliverkenyon/status/1714623333273051291

    Also, having someone from the team do a public build a blog with me using Hyvor to take it to the next level would be something you could get the community behind especially Build In Public

    Finally a lot of businesses are looking for an affordable and fast drop in sub-directory blog. Focus on that audience and sell them on it. Both Superblog and Feather do a good job of this. Imitation is the best form of flattery if you know what I mean.

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      Thank you so much for your ideas and suggestions. I will definitely try them. I now get ideas on what I have missed after reading all of you guys' ideas.

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    Creating a compelling product details page is crucial for online sellers. High-quality images from various angles and concise, SEO-friendly product descriptions are impactful. Integrating related product suggestions and customer reviews enhances user engagement and builds buyer confidence. A clean and organized layout is my preference for an efficient and enjoyable shopping experience.

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      Thank you so much for your tips. I'm gonna try these and give a update on you guys!

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    Hey Ishini! Challenges are challenges. Good lessons come from them

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      Yeah right? And it is a great privilege to share ideas and get suggestions from fellow indiehackers.

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    Congratulations, for hitting the 200 euro MRR mark! You dedication to protecting user privacy is admirable. Have you considered using social media sites to promote content? Getting involved in communities could increase visibility.

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      Thank you so much @premsaini! Currently we are active on Twitter and Linkedln. How about Facebook and Tiktok? Do you any suggestion or ideas? Please let me know.

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    Firstly, it is important to understand the target audience and their pain points. Privacy concerns are becoming increasingly important for internet users, so there may be a growing demand for privacy-focused CMSs. You can highlight the benefits of using a privacy-focused CMS, such as better data protection and GDPR compliance, to differentiate your product from others on the market.

    Secondly, you can leverage content marketing to educate potential customers about the importance of privacy and how your CMS can meet their needs. This can include creating blog posts, infographics, videos, and other types of content that address common privacy concerns and explain how your CMS addresses them.

    Thirdly, you can build partnerships with industry experts and influencers to increase visibility and credibility. This can include guest posting on other blogs, collaborating on webinars or podcasts, and engaging with relevant communities on social media.

    Lastly, you can offer free trials or demos to allow potential customers to try out your CMS and see its privacy features in action. This can help build trust and demonstrate the value of your produc

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      Thank you for all your suggestions. We have given free trials for anybody to try the product. Second suggestion: this is what I am doing in content marketing right now and what worked for Hyvor Talk too. But the downside is the keywords. When there is a easy to rank keyword, it has a very low search volume, and if the search volume is very high, the keyword ranking difficulty is very high. Do you have any tips or ideas how to leverage that?

      For building partnerships: I have done genuine partnerships with other businesses. And it went well but no much impact on product sales. And about partnerships with influencers, I tried to reach influencer on Youtube, Tiktok and none worked. Their charges are too high like more than 6000$. If you know influencers who would be ideal fit for my plan or if you have any ideas on that, please be kind enough to let me know.

      I thought about building a partnership with Forbes, like genuinely requesting them to review our product and list it on their article. So I wrote emails to the given email addresses on Forbes advisor webpage and still I haven't got any reply. And I tried other ones who are ranking in the first 10 on Google, but no luck. Most of them are running on affiliate or other paid partnerships. The public companies like WordPress, Wix, Webflow, Drupal, Joomla are competing shoulder to shoulder in this market. Is there anything that I am doing wrong?

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    i am developing analytics product so my opinion is somewhat biased but i don't understand how can you avoid analytics and still measure the performance? as you have already mentioned that without using analytics you will not be able to understand how your content is performing.
    As far as blocking analytics is concerned, you can use your own domain to route the analytics to get accurate picture. Alternatively you can use server logs to get the same data(assuming you are not on serverless) .
    I also don't understand why you want to avoid tracking codes, it need not be user specific, you can use for example ?ref=twitter to ensure that you get aggregate source of traffic without violating users privacy.
    This is even more true for google ads, if you don't send back gclid data to google, your ad results will be worst since google will not be able to optimize ad placements for your product without feedback on how its ads are performing and you will end up wasting more money approx cost without feedback is 30% higher than with feedback.
    My suggestion is to use everything in your arsenal to get users as long as its legal and ethical.

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