13
22 Comments

6 frameworks to keep in mind to experience the first signs of PMF

PMF is a spectrum. It starts with zero on one end and high PMF on the other. In Pre-PMF, you’re somewhere around the starting end of the spectrum and attempting to go upstream.

It’s the first step you have to get right and go from zero to one. Pre-PMF has these characteristics:

  1. People give you money for trying out your product
  2. Users tell you what it would take to adopt your solution company-wise
    3.Users react sensitively when there’s sudden downtime.
  3. Your website conversion rate (signing up, booking demos) is > 2%
  4. 50 active accounts for b2b.
  5. Active users growing 3% WoW
  6. User retention stays 20-40% across a 6 month cadence

This pre-PMF phase is where to go from zero to one, and experience the first signs of PMF. To get to this stage, there seems to be some anecdotal evidence on what to do and what to avoid. I’m listing it down for my reference more than anything.

Ship fast. Don’t build a roadmap

It’s no use building a roadmap at this stage. Ship fast and put your MVP out there in the market. Do 1-week sprints instead of 2. Set 6-week goals instead of a quarter. Do everything faster and scope accordingly. Take big bets. Don’t start with low-hanging fruits.

Prioritize Ruthlessly. Don’t write user stories.

Don’t spend too much time writing user stories and workflows.

Instead, prioritize what your most important action items are for the week. Use the 80-20 principle to identify high-leverage activities that move the needle (either quantitatively or qualitatively). Set one goal and align your incentives.

Get feedback fast. Don’t do too much user research.

Your market & customers will teach you more about what you need to build. Don’t spend time doing user research. At the start it is fine but when your product is out there, actual feedback from users is the key.

Think big but scope small.

Start a community. Don’t listen to everyone.

Build a community from day one. It’s your moat and gives you a chance to listen to your users and understand their problems, use-cases better. Don’t listen to everyone. Listen in on the people who matter.

Talk to users everyday. Don’t get stuck on strategy docs.

Talk to users daily. Either existing ones or prospective ones. Strategy docs aren’t really helpful at this stage. Your customers should help shape your product direction.

Write regular product releases.

Publishing a changelog at a regular cadence is a forcing function to ship fast. A weekly changelog is like a superpower.


P.S. If you liked this, you'll enjoy my newsletter where I write on SaaS growth every day. It's read by founders from YC, TechStars and other cool VCs/accelerators. Check it out here

posted to Icon for group Growth
Growth
on November 20, 2023
  1. 1

    Great concepts in here.

    Your newsletter link is broken at the end though just a heads up.

    1. 1

      thank you for reading - glad you found it useful.

      thanks for pointing out the broken link it's marketcurve.substack.com if you're interested in checking it out

  2. 1

    Love this - as a product manager turned indie-hacker I'm fortunate to have professional experience in shipping products, but I also have "bad" habits that come with working on established products.

    Building something from scratch is a constant exercise in experimentation and iteration, love the reminders here!

    1. 1

      thank you for reading - glad you found it useful. what are you building?

      1. 1

        Thanks for writing it!

        I've been doing SEO for a while and find most SEO tools are sold to SEO specialists, so I'm building one that is simpler to use and provides guidance based on your performance and data.

        1. 1

          similar to seobot it seems?

          1. 1

            Not quite!

            Seobot doesn't say much about their exact features, but it seems like they specialize in AI content creation (and hosting the content?).

            Rather than flood your website with content, my tool shows you what your best content opportunities are, and what parts of your website and SEO strategy are driving the results. We do this by analyzing your Google search performance and traffic data!

  3. 1

    Its so essential. Thanks for sharing .

    1. 1

      glad you found it useful :)

  4. 1

    Framework and PMF are both the most beautiful words working together. Thanks for sharing. So so useful

    1. 1

      thank you for reading :)

  5. 1

    So essentially, fast iterations and good touch with the market.

  6. 1

    Would love to get your thoughts on what to do to get to pre-PMF?

    1. 1

      the things i mentioned above will get you there

  7. 1

    I love frameworks. Improvise inside them, but set guidelines to work. Thanks for sharing

    1. 1

      thank you for reading :)

  8. 1

    Absolutely, your insights on navigating the Pre-PMF stage resonate well with the agile startup ethos.

  9. 1

    Hey, great tips! Hoping you can elaborate on, "talk to users daily". I run an anime/manga recommendation engine and I'm working towards involving users in my product decisions to make sure I'm building the best possible thing (not asking them what they want, but what problems are they struggling to solve). I made a banner at the top of my site prompting users to set some time on my Calendly for a 30-minute chat about their experience, but seems to be widely ignored. Any ideas what I should do? Thinking of offering a $10 incentive, but not sure that's the best path forward.

    1. 1

      yours is a b2c so daily talking to users can be a low reward high effort situation - get rid of the calendly

      instead, get data on how they're actually using your product (heatmaps etc), ping them on mobile notifying them of "new drops and announcements wrt manga" - get them on the app - in parallel, build a survey/quick feedback from built into the product ux and trigger this to pop up after x seconds

      1. 1

        I do have a form already that get's used somewhat, but forms don't allow me to get good data on the user's current and past behaviors to better understand what they're looking for and what I could make to best solve their problem.

Trending on Indie Hackers
Why Building in Public Changed My SaaS Journey Forever User Avatar 17 comments How I Closed My First SaaS Client Without Writing a Single Line of Code User Avatar 16 comments Meme marketing for startups 🔥 User Avatar 12 comments From $0 to $10k MRR: My Indie Hacker Journey – Part 2 User Avatar 8 comments From $0 to $10k MRR: My Indie Hacker Journey – Part 1 User Avatar 6 comments Protect your momentum like your life depends on It User Avatar 5 comments