I'm 40 years old and I find myself being too old for being creating projects.
My impression is that most people are quite young. So I would like to know how old are the people on indie hackers with the hope there are also so old as myself :D
Another question that I would like to know is how many projects do you have and on what are you working currently.
Appreciate your time
Every time someone posts a question like this, I always share this article:
https://hbr.org/2018/07/research-the-average-age-of-a-successful-startup-founder-is-45
I'm 42, turning 43 shortly. It's never too late to start. I was a financial investor from age 22 to 36 when I quit my job and became an indiehacker. I wish I had started indiehacking when I was 22 but I didn't know that was a viable path at the time, and I don't have a time machine.
I'm building a productivity app that combines to-do lists and time-tracking. I like to work on one major project at a time - I'm not great at working on multiple projects simultaneously. At the beginning, I might investigate multiple projects, but then I pick the best idea and run with it.
I can relate to this so much!
I'm 37.
Until I was 32 I was working in a corporate environment so would allow me to leave my country via company sponsorship. Then, because of the exchange rates, all my capital became worthless, so I spent the next 4 years still working inside a big co to save some money.
I only got to become an indiehacker last year and I wondered if I was already too late. I'm building a skill management app and it's lonely. My peers are all working on corporate jobs still, and for some reason, I felt the IH community was super young. I'm super glad I stumbled on this post today. :)
Awesome!
Yes, indiehacking can be a lonely endeavor. This community here is obviously a great way to connect with like-minded peers.
Another thing that has been working great for me is Indie Worldwide by Anthony Castrio (@AntCas). There's a free monthly meetup which is fun (next one is Feb 17). Even better is Founders Club which is not free but worth every penny. Anthony matches indiehackers for a weekly 30 minute 1-on-1 zoom call. Great way to network, share ideas and support each other.
https://microconf.com/connect has a Slack channel which is pretty good, though I'm not too involved.
Twitter works great for many - something I want to do more of.
I'm sure there are a number of other great ways to connect to other indiehackers, but this site and Indie Worldwide are what's working for me right now.
Good luck!
Appreciate the shoutout @stevenkkim!
I think the challenge as we age is that as we are more established, there's less incentive to spend time on projects like this besides having fun. our daily investment variation is probably significantly larger than expected return from the indie projects.
Another thing I observe is that we are pretty much just repackaging whatever was invented. People don't realize how powerful excel is, which covers probably 95% of the actual use cases we are all developing. It's got a crappy UI, but high flexibility. We get good ideas all the time, but building it into a sustaining business is challenging.
I agree with most of what you say. At the end of the day, you need to choose the path that's best for you whether it's doing side projects for fun, or building a sustainable small business, or raising vc and trying to build a unicorn.
Re: repackaging, yes many things are, but there's still a lot of room for variation, innovation and creativity.
It's very nice to see people 10 years in my future, building away (I'm 34). I hope I'm where you are when I'm your age :)
I also hope you and OP realize how much valuable experience you have that the young'uns on here don't have (I no longer count myself as young - I'm half way between at this point).
Yes, the experience is hugely valuable. That said, I do wish I were in my mid-thirties again... I had a lot more energy and optimism then 😉
Wew, I can relate to this! @stevenkkim we're the same age, and I wish I'd found this project when I was younger, less jaded and more energised 😅 But yeah, the trade-off is the experience, and there's no shortcut to that so 🤷♀️
Yeah, unfortunately life has no rewind button (I wish). All we can do is the best with where we are and what we have today.
I'm 34 as well. Your comment is really motivating. Thanks!
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Hey Steve, can we check in on what you are doing. I was thinking in a similar direction - happy to share ideas.
Sure, I'll send you an email.
Great to know! I'm turning 45 on Monday. 😂
I'll make sure to read this over the weekend. C'mon girl. You got plenty of life in ya. LOL
I came to share that exact article.
Great read.
I'm 43, will hit my prime time shortly!
Nice!
By the way, are you still running the community experiment where members get booted for inactivity? I was looking for it recently, but couldn't find it.
Yup, it's going well too!
https://twitter.com/indiependenthq
Thanks! How many members are there?
34
Hey Rosie, I'm trying to join, but I can't make the purchase due to a bug on the website. I'm not sure if this is a problem with Gumroad in general or just your checkout page:
https://www.loom.com/share/a1374c2ef7864436b1fbd4cf8d1d93aa
Edit: ok, I figured out that if I enter the expiration date last and don't leave that input field, then I can press the Pay button, and it works. But you still may want to get that fixed!
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Love this comment. Thanks!
Appreciate your comment. Thanks!
I am 55 years old right now. Started my current SaaS when I turned 50. This is by far my most successful business I have run in my lifetime. It is also the happiest I have been my entire working career. (I have worked for myself since I was 22).
Sure I don't have the energy to do marathon 12 hour coding sessions like I did when I was in my 20's, but I have figured out how to work smarter, and to balance my home life with work, and enjoy life in the process.
I have to upvote Devan's response because, having just turned 59 , I can attest that it's never too early or too late. Your SaaS doesn't know how old you are and your customers generally never will either. The same is true for race, gender, education, location etc. , none of it matters. Thats the beauty of it. Get some PMF and go for a ride!
This is not a prerequisite for being an entrepreneur. Experience is also a good improvement. Thus, you can start late or never give this age a chance for progress. For instance, many famous and successful entrepreneurs were late in their careers but still became famous with names like Mark Pincus of Zynga and Arianna Huffington from The Huffington Post.
The age limit should not be treated as a cut-off point when it comes to pursuing entrepreneurship; determination, commitment, and unshakable spirit should be the only thing that matters.
Example: Colonel Sanders, the owner of Kentucky Fried Chicken (KFC), is the best illustration that believes “Young People Are Not the Only Ones Who Can Be Successful Entrepreneurs.” Colonel Sanders was 65 when he decided to franchise his fried chicken operation and that was after his first social security check came in. During that year, with a unique combination of 11 herbs and spices that an aspiration of success, Sanders changed KFC from a neighborhood fast-food restaurant into a global empire.
I launched Bannerbear.com when I was 40.
Bannerbear rocks!
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I am 43. I am ALWAYS coming up with ideas and trying to build them as fast as I come up with them. My problem is there is not enough time in the day to work on them, fulfill family duties, work, and get stuff done around the house (my wife seems to have no problem doing these things somehow...)
Right now I am working on trying to re-motivate myself (i have been in a rut for several months now) to finish a usable MVP of Eurotripr (a Europe travel planning app). after this (unless it blows up and I make a $15k monthly from it or more), I will start in on my laundry list of other projects: Soccer community an score predictor app, soccer training app, Cycling a century app, a book list/reading tracker app, an automated system for tracking interviewees for journalists/podcasters app, the list literally goes on and on.
You're not too old. You really just have to have discipline to plug away at your ideas/projects a little each day.
My biggest problem used to be listening to all the "overnight success stories" and failing to realize none of them were done overnight. I'd think I was too far behind, that I'd wasted my youth and could never catch up, etc.
Listen to the IH podcast and you'll quickly see that 99% of all successfull IHers COurtland interviews took months or years to become successful. And MANY of them spent a couple hours each day when the rest of the house was sleeping, before or after work, or on the commute to/from work, or on lunch breaks to find the time to work on their projects.
Again, you're not too old. You just need to force yourself to find a couple hours (even 1) per day you can focus on your creative projects. Once you step back and realize that even 1 hour per day is 365 hours spent on your project per year, and a usable MVP COULD potentially be built with in 1 month (ie +/-160 hours), you'll realize that even modest consistent effort pays off over time. And we can all scrape together an hour each day if we really want/need to.
Good luck!
It's amazing how many projects do you have! That's great!
That's a small scratch of the surface lol. Again, I have WAY too many in-process projects and just feel like if I could focus on and finish one enough to feel confident to charge people for the service the projects provide, I could make a decent living off any of them.
Go for it!
I think that the following tweet sums it up pretty well!
Keep on it!
Love this!
I'm 52, so if 40 is too old, I'm in trouble. I stay quiet on here because I feel (right or wrong) that nobody wants to hear from an old guy. Don't psych yourself out or let anyone talk you out of following a passion. Lots of people talk about imposter syndrome but self-sabotage can be even more insidious.
I have a list of projects that I want to build, but for now, I'm working with a coach to build a consulting business. It's probably the quickest path to getting back out on my own. That said, I have a pet project I'm working on around gift-giving and making it easier to find (and share) gift ideas.
Hi, 50 here too :-) After 20+ years of writing code for for companies, I finally decided to take the "indie" path more seriously.
I 100% want to listen to someone of your age - a ton of wisdom and advice I've yet to learn. I'm mid 40's!
Thanks, I needed that!
I just turned 40 in September and started bootstrapping a company last year. I still feel like I just finished college and am part of the young crowd, so I don't think 40 is too old. You're only old if you believe you're old.
Use your experience, and knowledge gained so far to your advantage and start something on a problem you think you can solve. Have fun with it.
As mentioned in the other comments, you're more likely to succeed as a founder if you are in your mid 40's or older. I've read varying reports that 45-55 is the perfect age to start a company.
I hope this helps.
What are you working on Rob?
I'm working on a hub for small businesses and startups so they can consolidate their tools and data into one place and get he same insights and analytics the big companies get.
I found from experience growing a small engineering services business that we had to do a lot in excel or access and had to pull information from our CRM to match it to finance to projects to really get a feel as to how our business was running and where we could make changes. I'm trying to solve this for those types of businesses.
How about you?
Rob appreciate your comment!
I‘m 54, started my 3rd project 2 years ago and can finally make a living from it. never too old to create!
Wow! Could you share your product? Appreciate!
Sure! It's decareto.de , a SaaS app for data protection officers. Since GDPR is a big deal in europe (I am from Hamburg, Germany), our clients are obligated, among other things, to audit their client's websites. Our tool finds privacy violations on websites and saves them many hours of manual work. The company is me, my wife and a few contractors. Since I became self employed in 2010 to create my own SaaS products I always needed to do IT consulting to make a living, but in december 2021 I could finally quit my last consulting gig because decareto makes enough revenue now.
Impressive! Like your product
I had the same impression so it's good to see there are so many elderly indie hackers :'D
I'm 48. I started my 1st SaaS 10 years ago and my 2nd 6 months ago.
It's true that I cannot work the same amount of hours as 20 years ago. The general level of energy is lower and the time I'm willing to spend working also is. One important reason is I want to keep in good shape and healthy. I spend at least 2 days a week rock climbing and do 1 hour of yoga every day. I know as a fact that this will only have to increase as I get older if I want to keep the same level of fitness. This already makes for a big chunk of time. However, the productivity output is also definitely higher than 20 years ago.
Appreciate @AlessioFortiyour words!
Hey, I'm a bit after 41. A few months after graduating university, I got married (at 28), had three kids, and a mortgage, with this setup for me, it was too risky to work on something full time, and I had not so much time for my side projects, I did a bunch of them, all of them failed due to lack of time.
After saving enough money to become a full-time founder, I did this step and became such one. I think this situation has some advantages. As a professional software engineer, I have built a lot of products, I know what requires good product development, and I saw what marketing & business do.
Currently, I have 1 product that I am working on it, I believe it can become a good lifestyle business, and this is how to spend at least my near future. At least in my case, the age itself doesn't play any role.
Good luck!
Thanks a lot for your comment. As I see it has to do more with the perception that one has more than the circumstances.
The idea that successful startups are started by people in their 20s is a meme that I think originates from Paul Graham's ideas about what he looks for in a startup. However, the data shows that people in their 40s on average are more likely to be successful.
I'm 40, and speaking for myself, I feel like I've never been in a better position to build a successful startup. I have broad experience and hard-won skills in dev, marketing, UX and business development. I have years behind me of trial and error, building different things. Plus I'm no longer the naïve 25yr old who thinks he can just build a codebase and it magically turns into a business. I've witnessed all the mistakes that startups make from an insider and outsider perspective. All this stuff counts for a lot—regardless of what your career experience is, when you have a couple of decades under your belt it is an advantage. You just need to figure out how to use it to your advantage and keep building stuff, keep placing bets.
I think another key thing that comes with age is a healthy balance of optimism and realism. In my younger years I alternated between extreme optimism and extreme pessimism, and it was just because I didn't have enough experience to know what was realistic. But with age you develop the ability to temper your optimism with realism which allows you to be measured and effective rather than haphazard and ineffective.
Yes, there are many examples of founders that seem to have that magic that allows them to build unicorns at age 19, however, these are actually anomalies. Tech media tends to amplify these one in a million founder stories because they are .. anomalous, and this has the effect of making it seem like if you aren't some genius 23yr old who just dropped out of MIT and got into Y-Combinator then you ain't gonna make it. But the facts don't align with this view.
Haven't thought about it. But is true as they are anomalies the media writes about it. Appreciate your comment!
35 here and I just started two of my first companies this year. One is literally a coffee roastery, and the other is BugCatcher with my best friend since middle school, @jonbellah.
I feel like the tech world is the perfect place to start over and create new projects because your age doesn't matter. You might not ever even meet your clients face-to-face. So if building something digitally is your passion, you can totally do it!
You have caught one of my recent thoughts about creating digital projects!
Yes, I am afraid to say 40 years is too old, hell, I would even consider being 35 is too old. I would suggest moving to a retirement home in Florida and spend your days reminiscing about the good old times and waiting from the sporadic calls of your grandchildren. Try to take a walk (ask a nurse for help) with some frequency.
😂
Hey, I am 40 :) Don't get into the mid-age crisis :P :) Even if you are 90 you can do whatever you like. The age has nothing to do, it is just a kind of the indicator of how far you went on the planet ;-)
Hahaha thanks for the advice. It encourages 🙂
55 yo here!
I've been indie hacking for well over 20 years.
While I worked my full time job at a telco, I ran several (very low income) side hustles - 1999 web hosting business (sold for $10k in 2004), 2001 dating website (shut down), 2008 price comparison site (shut down), etc. etc.
I left my full time job after 30 years in Oct 2018.
Since then I've independently built, marketed and bootstrapped Dronedesk to $6k MRR.
Amongst a few other smaller projects, I created Instant Site Audit which I did purely as a means to have a break from Dronedesk! I've not actively launched or promoted that site as of now.
So in my view, you're never too old to be an indie hacker. In fact age benefits you in more ways than it inhibits you; you have the benefit of broad experience, potentially fewer financial pressures, maybe a wider network of contacts and definitely (for me personally) a much more relaxed attitude.
All you need is an active imagination, a single-minded focus on what you want to achieve and the tenacity to see things through. You can have those attributes in abundance at 55 just as much as you can when you're 25.
In a nutshell, people are living up to 100 years, which is different than before, where people lived up to 70 years, and 60 years was considered "old".
50 years is half the road. So 40 years is not a problem.
Gracias Jorge!
I'm on the top side of 50. I have no plans to slow down any time soon. Keep going!
As Steven Kim and HBR say, in the top comment, actually most successful founders are on the top side of 40.
Thanks for the comment!
49 here: do I win an award?
I think Colonel Sanders was in his 60's when he launched KFC.
Yes! It seems most of successful people didn't start young
Hey, 46 here. Don't care who does what and when. I enjoy what I'm doing and it has a potential upside. This place is definitely youngish. There are other networks like foundersnetwork - with much more mature audience (paid). Good luck!!
Thanks! will have a look at foundersnetwork!
41 here. Since 40, I'm keen to 20-80 rule. Focus on what matters and not how many
good advice!
Being "too old" (to me at least) is a mental trap. I've pivoted my career several times. Built some things, killed off some things (all no-code; MVPs are cheaper that way IMHO). You're never too old to try again or start something new. I'm getting ready to to build again. Have a couple ideas. One is an app for collectors to easily manage their collection.
This week, I watched an 80-something year old take his first shot at snowboarding. Snowboarding! Good for him I say.
Build the thing. Take the chance. Go sliding into the back-half well worn-out with a lot of stories.
Good luck to you, in whatever direction you decide to go and build. Us forever-young types will be rooting you on.
Appreciate your comment @its_all_good !
Here's another recent study: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30046897
Abstract of the linked paper:
Many observers, and many investors, believe that young people are especially likely to produce the most successful new firms. Integrating administrative data on firms, workers, and owners, we study start-ups systematically in the United States and find that successful entrepreneurs are middle-aged, not young. The mean age at founding for the 1-in-1,000 fastest growing new ventures is 45.0. The findings are similar when considering high-technology sectors, entrepreneurial hubs, and successful firm exits. Prior experience in the specific industry predicts much greater rates of entrepreneurial success. These findings strongly reject common hypotheses that emphasize youth as a key trait of successful entrepreneurs.
and heck, I'm nearing 40. It's never too late.
Guess how old KFC Colonel launch KFC!
Or how McDonalds got started by a blender traveler salesman!
Thanks for sharing!
I co-founded a startup at 36, I am 39 this month. I spent 20 years working for tech companies prior to that. As many have said and will say it's never too late to start. In fact, startups are all about timing, your life needs to be in order before you start them because if you're lucky it's a long road. Getting your life in order means different things to different people, but for many of us it means being financially established before trying to venture out on our own.
When considering creating something new, spend no cycles worrying about your age. Greatness is ageless. A more relevant question is 20 years from now are you going to regret not pursuing your dream?
That's true. To not pursue your dreams now will make it worse in the future
Hell no! I am 37 (40 is just around the corner!), and only just now finding good traction and success with a product I have built. Sometimes it takes a while to find out what works and what doesn't. Age is not the factor - experience is. Just keep plugging away!
I concur with this statement. never too late to build something. Am not quiet 40 but I have been wrangling this project https://retroteam.app/ for a while and its been doing great.
I've had a look into your product and it looks pretty interesting :)
I am 38, I quit my job when I use 36. Some days I feel old, most days I don't.
Same to me..
39 here and not too old. But it might be useful to have a young and eager co-founder who can put in work hours that you can not do with family etc.
So I have no excuses...
I'm 37.
SVGBackgrounds.com (main focus)
Web design business (main source of income)
Roast.so (passive)
Visiwig.com (on hold)
Interesting!
35 here and don't have any problem starting new projects at all! I think too much experience may limit older people. They know everything that can and probably will go wrong, so they never start. I guess I'm a bit of a naive optimist, so I don't seem to have that problem. For example, I thought I'd have a beta version of my current project ready after 4 months, and here I am 11 months in and still no release :)
You have a really good point about experiences limiting you as you age. I've found I can "spot" what can go wrong in an idea right away. This is great as it means you're not going to get started on a bad idea, however, sometimes bad ideas at first turn into good ones with some work and pivoting... so you may miss out on those.
I think one of the pros of being older, however, is you can move more efficiently. You know what to focus on to accomplish tasks, at least I hope you do. When I was younger, I was more prone to work on things that didn't lead to an outcome. Now I realize that time is limited and to make sure everything I'm working on is getting me closer to something shippable.
Can you help me “spot” what can go wrong with my idea?
Same to me! I'm a naive optimist. Always followed my dreams and they became true. So now I'm focused on shipping new projects but I look to other people from my age and they get married and have normal jobs. And that scares me somehow
No, 40 year old is not too old. I am 21 but I recently got to know about Britech Global (SaaS for Finance companies) doing $10 million ARR and the founder is 57 year old. There is no rule related to age.
My current project is sociomata.com. Sociomata is a social media content management tool which lets you schedule your tweets and threads. We are working on adding other platforms like LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram and Google my Business on our tool.
Sociomata.com looks interesting!
Thanks much, Did you try it out? Signing up will give you a 7 day free trial to test out the product and we won’t take your credit card.
I'm 44. :D
I don't think 40 is too old to create projects. It's just a question of if you have spare time to do it, I suppose. I don't have a family, so I have a lot of free time, but if you have kids, it could be tough to squeeze it in.
I have only one project I'm focused on at the moment. I find it's hard to bounce around multiple projects.
In the past few years I've done a bunch of small projects, nothing really to make money, but just for fun. You can check them out here: https://www.ussherpress.com/
Wow! You have done a lot of projects!
About spare time, I'm lucky or unlucky it depends on the view. But I don't have a family. Just a dog, which is cool because it makes me stay in one place and focus on the projects.
Ah, you can totally work on a project then.
If you are looking to get started, just lower your bar for quality or planning. I find I'm more likely to work on something if it doesn't feel like work. I already have a full-time job, so if my side projects are boring, I don't work on them.
Appreciate your advice
No worries. Best of luck and keep us posted!
Hey man! I'm 31! Age doesn't define you but I understand that it is a reality sometimes. Just do your best and I'm sure it will shine through. Hope this helps! I'm currently working on 2 different projects. Definitely check out my project, BeeWell Box, if you have a chance.
Nice! will have a look to your project
BeelWell Box is a nice project. I've been living on the counrtyside working as a blacksmith and farrier on a Nature protected area and they were with a bee technique called permaapiculture. Sorry for my bad English...
Age has nothing to do with it. As long as you have a mindset that embraces learning then you’re good to go.
I embrace learning. But I've lived so many different things that I find me stuck sometimes with old thoughts. Appreciate your answer :)
I am 39 and I am currently building my first web application. It's never too old to do anything, well unless you are in your 90s and want to try out bungee jumping but even that, if you have the guts to do it, why not! LOL
It's the question that came up in many fields that considered "young" areas. I've seen it so many times regarding software engineering and it's always untrue. Sometimes it gets ridiculous and people ask if it's too late to learn programming when they're 26.
I passed my twenties and I'm 34 now and I've never felt more energetic and willing to build something. I feel like 30-es are the best time of my life, actually.
Furthermore, I am sure it's the same in your 40-es and beyond. So don't worry about the age!
I believe the misconception of being 'too old' to undertake interesting projects emanates from the fact that employers are more likely to hire someone younger than older and society has taken note of this. I'm 56 and the ability to self-employ and carry out interesting project work remains accessible to me for as long as I stay alive and have the health & inclination to do so.
Two things come to my mind when I see someone think he/she's too old for something new.
The 1st is the deep ageism of our society. It's everywhere, including heads of those who make decisions and isn't 20ish anymore (sometimes for a long long time already).
The 2nd one is why on vc&startups media, which is controlled mostly by one side of this equation, young age of successful founders is so emphasized (except for obvious reasons like it's so cool to be a billionaire at 20). Probably for VCs it's just easier to work with younger founders, as they could have stronger negotiating positions due to their massive experience etc.
I've seen 60+ yo startupers and even talked to them a couple of times. No one of them even considered the idea that "it's too late to start" so you shouldn't too I believe.
I'm 48 btw.
Best of luck!
Awesome answer! Appreciate!
I’m 40 too. Have more ideas I want to get out there than ever before. Problem at this stage of life is finding the time!
Even though I’m 33 I feel you.
I feel this feeling every now and then when I compare myself with 16yo guys making $$$$ on YouTube, Twitch or other platforms and I think “why should I do this? These guys are already making all the money I didn’t. Why try?”.
Please stop comparing yourself.
The real thing is this: does it fulfill you to make it on your own? Does it make your neurons pop all over the place and your are so excited about your new idea?
If yes, don’t ever think about your age again.
Go on and create, go on and be fulfilled!
That’s who we are and what we do.
Keep it up!
Nice Post @Zaesar
I'm right now 33 and currently I'm working with @sonny on 24 Startups in 24 Months to become independent. An extended version of the 12 Startups in 12 Months challenge from @levelsio. Also @yongfook did the challenge successfully. Thanks for keeping us motivated by the way @yongfook and @levelsio 🙂
I also would have wished to go this way earlier, but every time I read such posts, I always remember that it is never too late. There is this quote I have in mind right now:
Apreciate your comment! And curious how do you come to 24 ideas in 24 months! That is insane.... Keep going my friend!
Thanks a lot
For me personal I just collected ideas since 2014 in different notes (around 100 right now and also crazy ones), they aren't really validated (I think validation is another whole story), but it's kind of a train yourself to become better at generating ideas and always directly write down something at the moment you have an idea in mind. The thing is, I just collected them without doing any execution over the years and right now I'm trying to filter out what has the potential to generate income or whats also interesting is that some ideas can be combined or can lead to new ideas because your personal experience changed over time and also the world changes every day. Also existing and working products are inspirational to make something with your own touch.
To just give you an example: There are plenty of (remote) job boards and we've created also one with our own touch and received feedback from users. Because of the feedback I came up with generating a platform which focuses only on the talent side (also not the only platform like this), this platform right now leads to new ideas e.g. problems we encountered ourselves and where we try to build tools for ourselves to solve them and also then for others which are in a similar position.
And we do the 24 Startups in 24 Months challenge to build a habit of generating and executing ideas in a timeframe of 1 month and learn from every past month. Along the way we build a story with this challenge which is also nice.
Impressive! You have already a skill putting so many ideas! I've started a project (stokednomads.com) pre-covid and it started well. But with the pandemic, it went down. Now I'm creating a new project. Let's see how it goes!
Wish you all the best and looking forward for this upcoming project!
Appreciate your comment!
So good to see so many fellow oldies here (I'm 35).
Maybe we can't code or go at it for 16 straight hours, but experience and knowledge should make up for youthful exuberance.
Responsibilities (kids, mortgage etc) and not being as naive as our younger counterparts
(being very selective and picky about what products to build and realistic about what might "work") are just a few reasons why we might be put off from this thing of ours. Or have the belief it's a young person's game.
Responses here prove that's definitely not the case!
Best of luck to everyone!
Thanks mate! Wish you also luck!
I think - it's not about age.
Starting and finishing projects is a skill!
Older people are less willing to learn, sadly, so they find excuses and avoid this. Don't do that :-)
I'm 30 and just learned to finish my own projects properly. FOMO was too big before, preventing me from finishing anything (but I started, like, 40 projects, lol).
Right now I'm working on 3 things, all SaaS (I'm a freelancer) and I feel like it's too much.
Good luck!
Jesus! 40 projects hahhah... Keep going!
I think it's a question of how much time and energy do you have to learn. Some of the "project creation" part is only to learn yourself. After you learn, if you can find a first job as a developer, the next one will be easy.
And about those projects - to just learn you should just work on something that you need yourself.
Turn 49 this year. Building a financial scenario planning application for the past 3+ years. Honestly, both creatively and professionally, haven't been this jazzed and excited to be creating something since my 20s.
Have hit the top of my game in my day job (VFX industry) but something about building and creating something that doesn't exist (as opposed to yet another alien, robot or spaceship flying in front of a greenscreen) is invigorating.
12:34 PM on a Thursday night and still plugging away....
Thanks for sharing!
Hey Zaesar!
I'm 43 years old. I built my first two SaaS apps a couple of years ago (both failed)
Last year I launched my SaaS SEO tools katlinks.io which is close to $500 MRR 🎉
I also run an SEO agency that pays the bills (and the development of my software products)
I don't think age is an issue. We have experience on our side 😎
Just keep doing your thing 👊
Thanks a lot!
34 here and I'm just starting my product making/indie hacker journey this year.
I think now is the best era for product making, esp for maker with little coding skills, there are plenty of tools for you to validate + build + grow your product.
For me I'm still not sure if this is a viable path, but I'm enjoying it so far and I know I'll be in regret eventually if I'm one selling time and working for other instead of building something for myself.
Never too old to start something new. As long as you have the passion to push it forward, then it’s never too late/old.
Thanks for the feedback!
Working on https://retroteam.app/ and it's never too late to start....
Thanks for sharing!
I'm 42, bootstrapping https://rpgplayground.com. I started selling my premium version earlier this week (and doing great! :))
Funny thing is that I wanted to create something for "indie game developers", but ended up with users of what I call "creative teenagers". Sometimes I feel a bit like this: https://www.timesunionmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/fellow-kids-social-media-blog-1080x675.png
😂
But I must say, my community is really awesome, always helpful and friendly.
Wow! What a work building https://rpgplayground.com/. Looks awesome!
Additionally, I think if you find a problem area that inspires you then you won't have a problem working on a solution(s) for decades to come. I'm optimistic, but I think that's plenty of time to achieve whatever you're hoping for
Just turned 30 and just joined the community!
• I've done freelance design work for 10 years now. Began learning JS, HTML and CSS last year and now trying to leverage both design and coding to build small projects.
Currently working on a calculator lol (nattygee on GitHub) hopefully eventually get to a point where people find small bits of extra value in simple apps I put together
Keep going!
Age is just a number. Falguni Nayar founded Nykaa at th age of 49 and became a billionaire at 58 last year.
Thanks for the feedback! Very inspiring
Depends. Are you going to build a startup for baby boomers 55+? Or for young college kids?
I've build one called stokednomads.com and now one for makers.
I am 40 as well. In the last 3 years, I used my spare time to build four side projects while having a full-time job.
I sometimes feel that with experience comes cynicism, which kills the dream sooner than later.
My last project is a web application to manage hybrid and remote working https://officemixer.app.
This is probably where I stop.
After all these projects I learned that I am good at building anything pretty much, (LEGOs included) but terrible at sales.
You stopped because your last project is working? or because you are not good at sales?
It's the latter I am afraid :).
The most important thing is to do what makes you happy at any age.
There are people taking up ballet 💃 at 60+ and it makes them absolutely happy. As we can imagine, taking up the ballet at 60 is way harder than creating a project at 40.
I am just starting an indie hacker journey while keeping my day job. After a couple of weeks of building in public, I am sure that I am on the right way.
Good luck with creating your project! 🚀
Thanks a lot! Also good luck with your projects!
I'm 49 and working on my 4th startup. Plenty more ideas in the pipeline.
Right now I'm working on Day Optimizer, a time management web app which uses guided workflows to help solopreneurs create daily plans.
Because of my age, I can see gaps in the market that I wouldn't have been able to see when I was younger and create concepts & frameworks that I didn't have the experience to create earlier.
It's still not easy, but I have a better understanding of what my challenges are, which give me more conviction in pursuing solutions.
I'm about to start the search for a marketing/biz-dev co-founder, and while I'll plan to talk to anyone, I'm specifically targeting people mid- to late-career because of their experience and temperament.
So, definitely don't feel like 40 is too old!
The way I look at it is this: I'm planning to live to be 120. I started working at age 18, so I'm only 31 years into my adult life. I have another 71 years to go, which is more than 2 more lifetimes (and I've done a ton already). So at 49 I'm just getting started...
Agree. Life expectancy is increasing!
I am 38 and look what I have been building the past few months
(ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧ https://getkairo.com
You are never too old to create projects if that is what you enjoy.
As for how many projects I have, I like to have focus. So I have my main job (CEO, bootstrapped profitable company) and then one side-project.
Thanks for the advice! Will have a look into getkairo.com
Age is just a number 🙂
Interesting that our industry highlights the young. Compared to the trades, the tech industry should be more favourable to older people as we don't have to worry about our tired and sore bodies, or taking longer to recover from injuries.
If you have an opportunity that you are passionate about, your age won't stop you :)
What advantage do you think a 20 year old would have over a 40 or 60 year old?
Good reflection! I think younger people are more into tech. Not only is it about the free time, it's also about being comfortable with the tools
I'm 39, and we just started 6 months back. I don't feel age as something unless you are too tired to retire.
Yep, lob yourself over the waterfalls and into Valhalla.
But seriously, you're plenty younger than many on here. You're just more experienced than some, and less than others. We all have our path & no two the same.
Two projects up and rolling. Working on number three this evening!
Cool. It's great to find new ideas and bring them to life
44 here, IT Director at a major organization with very busy days full of meetings etc. and family man. But always working on new ideas. Last year I create 2 successful Apps for the Greek market and currently working on 3 new projects.
Wow! That's impressive!
Another 38 here 👋. I have 1 side project, I can only work 1 hour a day. Want to create something before it's too late.
What do you mean with too late? Hahahah
Thanks @Zaesar, for the post. I was thinking about the same thing a couple of months back. Limiting myself. Kind of talking myself into an already known and comfy surrounding. Been in this repetitive cyclical thoughts for some time. But trying to come out of it now. Being more expressive and executing ideas! I believe executing your thoughts/ideas are going to be more rewarding than a "secure and comfy" life! Execute or retire trying, is my new motto 😊
Hell No.
I will be 36 this year, and I'm a smarter, more efficient entrepreneur than I was 10 years ago. Age tends to mean you have more dependents and less time, but it also can mean that you spend less time wasting your energy on the things that don't matter.
True!
Here's a blog I wrote that helped me cope with this thought of being "too old".
https://jondouglas.dev/never-too-late/
Great article @jdouglas - it is never too late to start something...
Nice article! Congrats!
Never, you can definitely start now
Thanks a lot!
I am 49 years old, and I am still doing GenAI related entrepreneurship. I am proud of that ;) I think your experience could be one of your key advantages if you have a young heart and stay hungry for new things.
I have been worked on many venture projects and currently I am working on a LLM prompt evaluation product, which is in pre-launch stage.
Pon la idea de que el pirata se impulsa por lograr libertad financiera; libertad de tiempo; libertad filosófica.
Eso, si eres honesto, lo sacaste de otro lado. No son tus pensamientos genuinos. Lo que ya está violando tu bendita libertad.
El pirata se hace y deshace permanentemente. Eso, en un avance y optimización escalable. Siempre se es un poco mejor que ayer.
El pirata se entrena siempre y no cae en la ilusión de llegar a convertirse en capitán.
¿Entiendes la metáfora?
It's just a number. You can achieve so many great things! Good luck!
So I'm not 40 y/o haha, but I'm sure it's not too old. People learn till the end of their life.
40-something here and working in a VC-backed startup founded by close-to-40's.
I was previously at a YC startup which was founded by three first-time founders in their late 20's. There is definitely a difference in approach, but if anything, that extra experience brings benefits.
While it's harder to put in as many hours, hopefully one of the things that come with age and experience is better decision making -- whether that's technology, business, marketing, or otherwise.
Over the winter break, my wife and I were planning a 2 week trip using Google Docs and after getting fed up, I ended up putting together Turas.app (https://turas.app) over three days and then shared it to Reddit. What I can say is that I'm able to build ideas out much faster now with experience whereas 20-something me would have taken too long and lost focus.
hahahahahaha......I'm turning 37 on Thursday.
I'm 33 now and I feel like I am having a rebirth after quitting my job without a plan.
I'm also 40. And I have so many plans… it's a fault, surely, to keep planning so much and not executing – but I'm slowly turning things around. Baby steps.
I'm a self employed graphic designer currently reorienting myself and my priorities. Hopefully this year I can take on the title Indie hacker and build a MVP.
40 years is no way too old. I quit my engineer job 3 years ago at age 44 to start Shotstack. Limited savings, no assets, no revenue, single dad with 2 young kids. Not really a good time to start running a business but did it anyway. So far it's working out OK, you'll find a way. Biggest regret would be if I hadn't done this.
41 and wanted to chime in with my 2 cents. It's definitely a poor industry image that every successful indie hacker is young (and they do tend to get good coverage) so it's easy to feel too old - been there and I'm wearing the t-shirt. It's an almost daily battle to convince myself that I'm not but I also know that all the crappy projects I didn't see through and made mistakes on would have been much better if I had the knowledge and experience I have now! Currently only working on one project but it's the biggest and best I've done.
Keep hacking 💪
40 here, turning 41 this year :), just launched a new project (Cluee.app), but I'm in business since 2000 with both agency-business and products :)
Your MIND (with the brain it is different: sleep, diet, exercise, etc) starts aging when you stop growing. There is no way you can create projects without personal, technical, emotional growth and learning. So if you want to stay young for longer you MUST make, build, create...
37 here, just started the journey but am extremely hopeful with all the other commenters here.
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This is revelatory! Or at least very relatable. I can totally identify with both the sense that life would be easier if I could just follow the same path as everyone else... and the knowledge that I'd always be wanting something more. For what it's worth, you don't sound like a failure to me. Keep at it!
Very inspiring your story!